In Episode 77, Ben and Patrick debut their fancy new podcast setup (hello, two cameras!) and share insights from their six-month project with the Department of Creative Affairs (DCA), a platform connecting mid-market brands with independent agencies. They discuss why smaller teams deliver bigger results, how close collaboration with creatives drives success, and the benefits of specialization over scale. Plus, a little crypto talk, some nostalgia, and a promise of even slicker setups soon.